there has been a shift in the eligibility for welfare during the obama years. more people are getting heating assistance, cell phones. you name it, you can get more of it in the obama years. point is there is no plan to rein this in. the president is adamantly opposed to any spending cuts or any reining in of these run-away programs. >>gretchen: one in six americans now on food stamps. i think one in four children, i've heard, are on food stamps. >> 19.9 million children are fed by the federal government. >>gretchen: you know what comes to mind is i wonder what president bill clinton thinks about this. he's been an advocate of president obama, obviously helping him get reelected, but he was in charge of welfare reform. a lot of these things have been rolled back. i'm wondering what he thinks about this. >> i don't think he's said anything. he's been a big supporter of president obama in the election campaign last year, but i don't think welfare reform and the reversal of reform ever came up. i don't know what he thinks about this. >>steve: this could be one of